I must assist Christian in this agruement. I have browsed through the websites you posted and the agruement that struck me the most interesting is why the panda does not have opposable thumbs. Evolution may be the most sensible answer to that creature and some other creatures, but still I must ask questions like:
- How can birds navigate over thousands of miles of ocean and never get lost?
-How do great whales dive to the bottom of the ocean without the pressure causing them to implode?
-How do Emperor Penguins go two and a half months without eating or drinking?
-How does a giraffe get a drink without causing lethal blood pressure to his brain?

How can these questions be answered without a creator? I especially find the giraffe’s situation interesting because, as I was reading, if evolution was true the giraffe would not be here today. Every part the giraffe is needed for it to be alive, meaning evolution could not have happened to each part at different times. Here you can look further on that topic:

http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1653.cfm

This website also describes the Bombardier Beetle, another creature rejecting evolution. I have found the DVDs Incredible Creatures that Defy Evolution very helpful in exploring this topic more.

But back to the Panda, if we conclude there is a creator, we also know that nothing besides God is perfect. So, I believe the Panda doesn’t have opposable thumbs simply because nothing besides God is perfect.

Even with humans is it simply evolutions chance that every part of the body depends of some other parts function? How was the heart evolved if there wasn’t blood? Or if blood was “evolved” first, then what function did it have in the body without a heart or other organs for it to run through?

My examples may not be in dept, but hopfefully they shows my feelings on this topic.

Why does the universe have to have a designer? If it were to evolve, wouldn’t evolution likely occur in a way that works rather than a form that doesn’t? Even though the eye is an incredible thing, couldn’t it have evolved that way without having a designer?

Also, if all things were created by a designer, why do some animals or parts of us reflect a design that is not efficient? It seems that if there was a god he would make things perfect or at least ideal. But there are many ways that science has proven that the current design of some things is far from ideal. How would you respond?

Consider this point from a major scientific publication:
http://www.discovery.org/a/2136

http://www.csicop.org/si/2001-09/design.html

I’m glad you enjoyed my first post about good and evil. On the subject of God you have some excellent points. These are good questions. The concept of things which are infinite is difficult to grasp and even though I wrote this post I have difficulty completely understanding it.

One of my first remarks regarding infinity is meant to show that the universe must have a beginning. My explanation was an argument which I discovered through a website while doing my research. The link to the argument is: http://www.existence-of-god.com/first-cause-argument.html

You can find it under the subtitle “It’s impossible to traverse an infinite series”.

To start off there is the idea of infinity. A place which can never be reached because it goes on forever.
Pretend that you’re counting numbers. You can count from five to seven: 5 6 7. This is possible because five and seven are both definite points which end.
Now pretend you are going to count from five to infinity: 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21………… You would have to keep going and going. Eventually you would reach 1,000,000 and even 1,000,000,000 and even 1,000,000,000,000 but you would never reach infinity because it keeps going and going and going forever.

Okay so think about this same situation in reverse. What if you were counting down from infinity to five? Because you could never reach infinity in the first place there is no number to start that would be infinity if you wanted to go backwards. You couldn’t simply start at 1,000,000,000,000 and count down because infinity stretches beyond that. So it’s impossible to count from infinity to five.

That also means that it’s impossible to count from negative infinity up to five. Because negative infinity stretches back into forever there is no number at which you can start.

Alright so we’ll apply this concept to the universe. If the past were infinite then you could never be in the present. The past would stretch out forever and it would not be possible to make it to the present because you would be stuck in going through the infinity of the past.

So this means that the only logical explanation is that the universe has a beginning. A point at which it began to exist.

This also bring your question that if I claim that everything has a beginning then doesn’t God have a beginning?
Your right. If I say that everything has a beginning then God would have to have a beginning.
Does everything have a beginning? Yes and no.
I believe that the universe has a beginning and everything in it. However I believe that God does not have a beginning.
To be clear I do not believe God is not a part of the universe. He created and he made it but he is not bound by it or a part of it.

In order to be the creator of the universe which had a beginning God would have to have no beginning. As you say if God did have a beginning then God would have to have been made in some way. I agree with you there is a problem with this idea, because if someone made God then who made that someone?

However I don’t believe that God is even bound by time. He created it.
He has no beginning and no end because he doesn’t have to worry about time. He was and always is and always will be. So no one made God. He always existed.

I think that we as finite people will never be able to completely grasp the full understanding of God. He is infinite and we are not. He knows everything and we only know a limited amount of information. He can be everywhere at every time yet we are bound by one place at one time.

I hope this helps with some of your questions. I see a lot of good pondering in the things which you asked.

Thanks for the questions and good luck with your quest for learning more about God!

Just some food for thought.

I often wonder why people thinks it’s irrational to believe in the Creator God, an uncaused being. They say, logically, he must have came from something. But that goes back to infinity. Some say that nothing could be outside of time, infinite, etc. But, to some, it is rational to think that energy has been around for an infinite amount of time, and that energy somehow randomly created all. So we could play the, “well where did that energy come from,” question.

Great stuff though, keep seeking the Lord with it all, it’s coming along great. Praise God!
Love ya bro.